Roundtable Q&A Discussion About Havergal College (2021)
Havergal College alumni, current students, and parents shared their insights on the school’s culture, values, strengths, and weaknesses. Hear what Buffy Grand O’Driscoll, Yasmin Alameddine, Carrie Porter had to say about the school.
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- 1:53 - What did you appreciate most about the school during your time here at Havergal? And how has your perspective changed on that now that you've had some distance and you did have some distance in between child as well?
- 5:19 - What to the best of your knowledge, differentiates Havergal from other schools?
- 9:05 - If the school was to be represented as a single person, what would personality be like in only three words?
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Highlights from the Q&A discussion
Buffy Grand O’Driscoll — alum and current parent
- School alumni
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Buffy graduated from Havergal College in 1985 and decided to send her three daughters there when the time came.Two of her daughters have graduated already, one of whom is now in medical school at U of T, and the other who is doing a Masters in animal science at Guelph University. Her youngest daughter still attends Havergal College and is in Grade 9.
- “I think probably the thing that I appreciated the most when I was at [Havergal College] was the extraordinary opportunities that we were given, I got to experience so many different things. [Students] were never pigeonholed into one particular area. If you were an athlete, you were also in the choir, or the band. If you were a debater, you were also an artist. There were just so many things that you could experience to discover who you were, and to also develop friendships that crossed years above you, years below you, different houses throughout your grade.”
- “I had so many opportunities at [Havergal College]. I think that was the thing that was very impactful for me ... Has that changed? I think the school is probably doing an even better job than it did when I was there. [Havergal College] has really got a school culture that encourages engagement and kids to be involved. … There's also that element of risk-taking as well. I think that they're doing a really good job of really enhancing that experience for the students, and encouraging them to be just fully involved in the school.”
- “[Havergal College] gives students a full mind, body, and soul experience. I would also add that I think [Havergal College] really focuses on how girls learn, and everything is so specific to making sure girls learn, and have their very best experience so that they can achieve their potential. ... [Havergal College’s] campus is extraordinary. Here we are in the middle of a city, with 22 acres with sports fields, a pool, tennis courts, woodland, trail gardens, outdoor classrooms, I could go on and on. That enhances your student experience, whether you realize it at the time or not.”
- “When you're sitting in class at [Havergal College], and you're looking out of a window at a forest and you're in the middle of Toronto, it's just unbelievable. I think that when you get some distance, you can really appreciate that that very much enhances your experience, and how lucky we were as students to have that surrounding.”
- “I think that if the school was a person, she would be dynamic, empowered, and also traditional. … I think [Havergal College] has never rested on its reputation. It is always innovating and forward looking and planning for the future and what they can do best for the girls. … The school is strong and confident in its position in girls education, and that's the kind of student that they produce.”
- “I think that [Havergal College], combined with innovation, has a real balance with tradition and history, and the things that ground us in our foundations, in so many of the things that we do, and that has carried through three centuries. I mean, you've got [Havergal College history] from the 1800’s all the way through an ad to the 2000’s. There's some commonalities that really are the basis for your school experience.”
- “I think a lot of families that come into [Havergal College] don't think beyond their daughter's graduation, they're thinking of their daughter's time there. I don't think they realize that there is an old girl community of almost 10,000 [Havergal College] old girls, which is an extraordinary resource, not just for networking or mentoring, which we do very well with, but it's those global friendships and those global connections that span decades. Your daughter will have lifelong friendships out of their experience with [Havergal College], and they'll have access to a community that is just amazing and welcoming and safe and exciting and inspiring. Your connection to [Havergal College] doesn't stop the day you get your diploma, it continues for the rest of your life.”
- “I think [I would recommend that new Havergal College students] get involved. Take advantage of all of those opportunities. Don't be shy, don't be hesitant. Don't hold back. Try something new. If you think you might be interested in photography, join that club. If you think you might try a new sport, go for it. ... There's just so much to do at [Havergal College]. I would encourage every new student to really get involved. That's the culture of the school. I think it would be strange for students to not be involved, and that's just such a big part of being at [Havergal College]. You make such great connections and friendships and you really discover who you are by putting yourself out there and taking advantage of all that [Havergal College] has to offer.”
- “Speaking with my two older girls who have now not only graduated from [Havergal College] but have gone through their undergraduate experience, are now in graduate school. I think one of the biggest impacts was the fact that they were taught to think critically, to question. ... They entered University with an ability to express their ideas, and to communicate. It was a standard that was far above what they found their peers to be at, and that was so valuable to them and they didn't realize it at the time when they were at.”
- “There was a very high [academic] standard at [Havergal College] to keep up with, and the payoff for the work, and the responsibility, and the constant push of the staff to get them to think deeper and wider about everything, really helped them down the road. What's the biggest impact for my daughter that has just entered [Havergal College] in Grade 7? ... I think the biggest impact has been the amount of effort that the teachers have put into being nimble, being innovative, and being really proactive about the student experience during very tough times.”
- “The values of [Havergal College] are actually really reflected in the mission statement. They are preparing young women to make a difference, and it's something that is woven through all of the [Havergal College] experience, not just from their academic setting, but from all the different school engagements. It's things like integrity and academic excellence and compassion and caring and support. You see that, and you experience that parent to parent, in those volunteer experiences, and opportunities to get together. … All of those values I can certainly speak to as a parent, when the kids come out the other side of things, they are so ingrained in the student.”
- “My daughters say it wouldn't even occur to them not to give back in some sort of way to their community. So the values are really integral to the [Havergal College] experience. You can't get away from it. It's the idea that we're creating strong, passionate, inquiring, and inspiring leaders for the future. It's all rolled up into one with it being balanced with caring and compassion and philanthropy.”
- “I can't believe it's been 30 years [since I graduated from Havergal College], I've got such a fantastic group of friends, and we still stay in touch with each other. There's probably about 20 of us that regularly get together. We've zoomed and all of that, but I miss seeing the girls that would come from all over the world to come back for our reunions.”
- “I've been so fortunate to be connected to the school for so long. I really missed being in the school again, chatting with the other parents, making those connections, cheering on our daughters for sports teams. I missed out on being there and watching those banned performances or the drama performances. There's so many ways as a parent that you're connected to the [Havergal College], and you can be involved in the school. To have that cut off was almost like going through withdrawal. It was hard for me, because I love the school. I absolutely love the school. That distance this year [due to COVID] was difficult.”
Yasmin Alameddine — alum
It will soon be 10 years since Yasmin Alameddine graduated from Havergal. She says the school’s expansive alumni network is one of its unique strengths. Yasmin says the Old Girls in her network are as diverse as they are remarkable: from professional hockey players to leading scientists. She now lives far away from her old Toronto stomping grounds. Nonetheless, she says the support she feels from the community is strong as ever. She says it’s a pleasure to be able to pay it forward with recent grads who often reach out.
- “I would say the [Havergal College] community really excited me. The fact that teachers to parents to students would all help you pursue any opportunity you'd want to learn about or keep going with, like a volunteer group, or hobby, or sport, or any class. Now that it's been almost 10 years since I graduated and I don't live in Toronto anymore, I still feel like the [Havergal College] community has extended past [graduation] even more than I thought it would.”
- “Just this morning, I talked to two old girls, some of my best friends [from Havergal College]. I always reach out to teachers for past teachers for either recommendations, or for career advice, and then young alumni reach out to me to learn more about different things. I reach out to older girls as well, I just feel like I'm so pleasantly surprised at this community that I shared so much while I was there, that supported me, still supports me.”
- “I think what differentiates [Havergal College] is the holistic approach to education. ... This culture is not comparable to any other school I've been to. … I've been to a different College in the States, and then grad school, and I do not think anyone can replace the [Havergal College] culture and their holistic education.”
- “There's a lot of announcements about tryouts, or organizations, or different clubs and house announcements, and it just shows that you're not at [Havergal College] for academics solely, you’re there to build out all the different parts of your holistic education, and I don't think that is found anywhere else.”
- “It's so hard to encapsulate [Havergal College]. ... What is great about [Havergal College] is that there's no stereotypical girl that comes out. ... I would say [if Havergal College was to be personified], they would be hardworking, thoughtful, and a leader. … In terms of hard working, I think the work ethic that is instilled in [Havergal College] students at the beginning, they take with them through university, and through [their careers].”
- “The grit and the resilience that is created through [Havergal College] has been really helpful and incredible. [Havergal College] is thoughtful, because I think there's always some kind of thought behind the girls' actions, whether it's caring for their community, asking thoughts and questions if they don't know about another community, caring for their friends and family, and that's really instilled first and foremost.”
- “[Havergal College] really values leaders that are up in front of the school, and are spirited and everything like that. [Havergal College] really encourages informal leadership, too. When no one is looking, what are you doing? [Students] really leave [Havergal College] being extremely empowered in different ways, whether your skills are formal or informal.”
- “What I really liked most about [Havergal College] was when there were specific classes that applied really well to real-life scenarios, and university classes, because this made me realize I really like technology and I wanted to pursue it, and now I am pursuing a career in technology. I would hope that the school continues to do that and continue to have classes that apply to university-level classes, and then also show a taste of what it would be like to be in the workforce. I know there's a lot of coding classes.”
- “I think what surprised us as a family is how involved each of the family members will be in the [Havergal College] experience. When I say this, I mean that there's Grandparents Day, a father-daughter dance, and a mother-daughter brunch. My mother actually jokes that she went to [Havergal College] longer than my older sister and I did, because she did the combined years. You really feel like the family attends [Havergal College]. When you graduate, the entire family is extremely sad, but it involves that part of the community as well in every way possible. I think that just shows how important the community is, and how important it is to involve the whole family. That's a little surprising for sure.”
- “I remember when I was new at [Havergal College], I was really nervous and I asked my sister, ‘do you have any advice?’ She said, ‘take advantage of every single possible aspect of [Havergal College].’ What I did was, I sat down at a different lunch table every single lunch for the first month or a month or two. In addition to trying different classes and trying different hobbies and sports, [new Havergal College students should] also talk to everyone from all the teachers, older girls, and younger girls. Ask questions, and get to know them, because there everybody’s such a resource. Take advantage of this community that's there, every single person will support you, answer your questions and help you out.”
- “I'm looking forward to the 10th reunion at [Havergal College]. I think [Havergal College] and the network does a great job [to make sure that] if we're not physically together, we're always supporting each other in different ways. Just being so close to another fellow student who is playing hockey professionally, or another one who's a scientist, or another person who's just in these different fields doing the best they can, and giving back to those communities, always inspires me. Every time I leave a coffee with an old girl, or see a teacher again, I leave really inspired, and inspired to do even better work for my communities as well. So just being that close to that [Havergal College] spirit, I definitely miss it. I'm very excited to be back there.”
Carrie Porter — current parent
Carrie has a daughter who is currently a Grade 3 student at Havergal College. She appreciates the school’s Anglican affiliation, because the school’s values align with her own. She feels that the school has created a safe, encouraging environment that allows her daughter to take risks, develop confidence, and a strong work ethic. Her daughter has fostered many close friendships within Havergal College’s tight-knit community.
The extraordinary opportunities that we were given is what I appreciate most about my years at Havergal. You were never pigeonholed into one particular area. I got to experience so many different things. If you were an athlete, you were also in the choir, or the band. If you were a debater, you were also an artist. There were just so many things that you could experience to discover who you were.
It’s really got a school culture that encourages engagement, and kids to be involved. I think the school is probably doing an even better job now than when I was there. There’s also an element of risk-taking as well within the school culture.
It’s a full ‘mind, body, soul’ experience that you have at Havergal.
Havergal really focuses on how girls learn. And everything is so specific to helping the girls learn and making sure they have the very best experience possible, so that they can achieve their full potential.
Havergal’s campus is extraordinary. Here we are in the middle of a city, with 22 acres, with sports fields, a pool, tennis courts, woodland trails, gardens, outdoor classrooms. I could go on and on. That enhances your student experience, whether you realize it at the time or not. When you’re sitting in class at Havergal College, and you’re looking out of a window at a forest and you’re in the middle of Toronto, it’s just unbelievable.
I think that if the school was a person, she would be dynamic, empowered, and also traditional. First of all, dynamic: Havergal has never rested on its reputation. It is always innovating and forward-looking and planning for the future. Empowered: the school itself is strong and confident in its position in girls’ education, and that’s the kind of student that they produce. And traditional: I think what Havergal has is a real balance between innovation, and the traditions and history that grounds us, our foundations that have carried through three centuries.
A lot of the time we can tend to focus on those Havergal students and those Old Girls who are extraordinary. There are a lot of them, and they do spectacular things. But there’s also the students and the Old Girls who are quietly making an impact every day, whether in school or in their community, and they’re really upholding the mission statement of the school to ‘make a difference’. Not too long ago we gave the Old Girls Award to a woman who wasn’t the fantastic scientist or the best-selling author — she was a woman who, in small ways, had dedicated her entire life to volunteering. And when you looked at her life as a whole, it was extraordinary. That helped send the message to students: you don’t have to be out there as a superstar to make an impact, you can also make an impact in small ways all the time.
Your connection to Havergal doesn’t stop the day you get your diploma — it continues for the rest of your life. There is an Old Girl community out there of almost 10,000 Old Girls, which is an extraordinary resource. And not just for networking or mentoring — it’s those global friendships and those global connections that span decades. Your daughter will have lifelong friendships, and they’ll have access to a community that is just amazing and welcoming and safe and exciting and inspiring.
My advice to new Havergal students is: get involved. Don’t be shy. Don’t hold back. Try something new. Join that club. Join that team. If you’re interested in photography, for example, give it a try. If you think you might like a certain sport, go for it. There’s just so much to do. I would say really, really get involved. That’s the culture of the school. I think it would be strange for students to not be involved. It’s such a big part of being at Havergal.
For my daughters, who are now in grad school, one of the biggest impacts was the fact that they were taught to think critically, to question. They entered university with an ability to express their ideas, and to communicate. It was a standard that was far above where their peers were at, and that was so valuable to them. They didn’t realize just how valuable until they had moved onto university.
There is a very high academic standard for Havergal students to keep up with, but it really helps them down the road. That’s the payoff for all the work, and responsibility, and the constant push of the staff to get them to think deeper and wider about everything.
The school’s values are really about preparing young women to make a difference. That’s something that is woven through all of the Havergal experience. And it doesn’t just come from their academic setting, but from all the different school engagements. It’s things like integrity and academic excellence, and compassion and caring and support. Those values become so ingrained in the student. It’s about creating strong, passionate, inquiring, and inspiring leaders for the future.
The community at Havergal really excited me, back when I was a student. The fact that everyone — from teachers to parents to students — would all help you pursue any opportunity, anything you wanted to learn about or try, like a volunteer group, or hobby, or sport, or any class.
The Havergal community has extended past graduation even more than I thought it would. It’s been almost 10 years since I graduated, and I don’t live in Toronto anymore, but just this morning I was talking to two Old Girls, some of my best friends to this day. I always reach out to past teachers for their recommendations or career advice. Young alumni often reach out to me with different questions, and I reach out to older alumni as well. I’ve been so pleasantly surprised at this community that I cherished so much while I was there — and that supported me — still supports me 10 years out.
At prayers, three times a week, you see Havergal’s holistic approach to education in action. You’ll have someone speaking, either a student or faculty member, about an important topic each week, there’s music, and then there’s a lot of announcements about tryouts, or organizations, or different clubs and House announcements. It just shows that you’re not at Havergal for academics solely. You’re there to build out all the different parts of your holistic education, and I don’t think that is found anywhere else.
What is great about Havergal is that there’s no stereotypical girl that comes out of it, but if the school were a person, that person would be hard-working, thoughtful, and a leader. There is a work ethic that is instilled in Havergal students from the beginning, as well as grit and resilience. As well, thoughtful, because there’s always some thought behind the girls’ actions, whether it’s caring for their community, caring for their friends and family. And in terms of leadership, Havergal really values leaders who are up in front of the school, who are spirited and everything like that, but Havergal really encourages informal leadership too. When no one is looking, what are you doing?
I think what surprised us as a family is how involved each of the family members will be in the Havergal experience. When I say this, I mean that there’s Grandparents Day, Father-Daughter Dance, Mother-Daughter Brunch. My mother actually jokes that she went to Havergal longer than my older sister and I did, because she did the combined years. You really feel like the whole family attends Havergal.
My advice to students would be to take advantage of this community that’s there. Every single person will support you. When I was new at Havergal, I was really nervous. My sister’s advice was ‘take advantage of every single possible aspect’. So what I did was, I sat down at a different lunch table every single lunch for the first month or two. I tried different classes and different hobbies and sports. And I talked to as many teachers and fellow students as possible. Everybody is such a resource at Havergal.
We picked Havergal because we were looking at schools that had very high academic standards, and we believed in the benefits of all-girls schooling. We were looking for a very robust extracurricular program, and also a very well-rounded education, and that’s what we found at Havergal College.
I expected the school to bring out the best in my daughter, and that is exactly what is happening. She has been quite a reserved child and she is really coming out of her shell. I feel that Havergal has made her feel very comfortable and valued. They see who she is. I’ve been getting a lot of feedback that she is one of the chattiest kids in the class now. That has made me very happy.
At first I was a bit indifferent, maybe wary, of the school’s Anglican religious affiliation, but it has really been of huge value to my daughter’s experience. She has learned so much about all kinds of different faiths. And there is such a focus on how to be a good person.
One thing I didn’t expect was how I feel when I go to school assemblies and prayers, and the emotion that it brings out in me, because I feel like my daughter is where she’s supposed to be, and we’re so lucky that we have had this opportunity to send her.
I would describe the school’s personality as supportive, open, and demanding. Supportive, because I feel like Havergal has created such an encouraging, safe environment for my daughter, in which she can take some risks that will really grow her as a person. As for openness, we can see how at Havergal that extends to acceptance of different thinking, different beliefs, different faiths. And then demanding, because I think expectations are very high at Havergal. The work ethic being built is such an asset.